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E09 — Taking on Big Tech with Øyvind Reed

"From one day to the next, everything changed. Almost overnight. [On] 25th of February 2020, I'll never forget that date, things just started going completely crazy from a growth perspective."

You probably used or at least heard of Whereby, a video communication platform that’s simpler and friendlier than Google Meet, Teams, or anything else. In 2020, when the world went into lockdown, Whereby went from a relatively niche product to a global player, next to Zoom and all the “big boys.”

To Øyvind Reed, the CEO at the time, it felt like the moment the team had been waiting for: hockey stick growth. The team grew 5x. The revenue grew 10x. And then, soon enough, came the moment of reckoning:

Let's be real, competing against the likes of Google Meet and Microsoft Teams, when it's embedded or included in a subscription that you have to host your GSuite product or your Microsoft Teams product is borderline impossible.

In 2023, Øyvind realised that after a decade of running the business, he didn’t have the energy to take the company forward:

So I had started thinking that maybe I'm not the right person to take this into the next stage because I, I really believe in the energy that a founder needs to have.

In our conversation today, Øyvind and I discuss what it was like for him to decide to step down as a CEO, how he chose his successor and approached the conversation with the board, and what he would have done differently.

When Øyvind was still the CEO of Whereby, we had a coaching relationship. As is often the case, our agenda didn’t include anything fatigue when we started working together, but that was one of the things that our work helped Øyvind to realise:

So I started to accept internally that, and through conversations with you, actually, right, that I needed also to be able to understand that there's no wonder that I was starting to feel a bit fatigued, right?

Recently, I wrote about how I think about coaching outcomes. The things we aim for when we start working together are rarely the takeaways that stay with us as impactful or meaningful afterwards.

Enjoy the conversation!

Timestamps

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00:00 Introduction

01:43 The Founding Story of Whereby

03:35 Growth During the Pandemic

09:53 The Decision to Step Down as CEO

14:55 Transitioning the Leadership

20:43 Involving the Board

30:00 Internal vs External Candidates

32:28 Executing the CEO Transition Plan

33:51 The Emotional Impact of Stepping Down

35:10 Transition Timeline

37:52 Becoming the Executive Chair

38:59 Balancing Family and Professional Life

43:28 Finding the Next Professional Step

45:54 Being a Founder CEO vs. Hired CEO

47:34 Impact on the Family

49:47 Post-Transition Reflections

56:36 Advice for Founders and Investors

01:00:51 Closing Thoughts

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